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Malcolm Douglas Tune Add: Missing DT tunes - Part NINE (64* d) RE: Tune Add: Missing DT tunes - Part NINE 28 Apr 03


Some more bits and pieces. Not as helpful or clear-cut as I'd like, but a few steps forward...


1225 TARWATH2  FAREWELL TO TARWAITHIE (2)
This is the original poem (unfortunately, with the title mis-spelt) by George Scroggins, published 1857, that was later set to the popular Green Bushes tune. Strictly, it has no tune; but can of course be sung to Green Bushes, which is included (as TARWATHI.MID) with the other DT entry, FAREWELL TO TARWATHIE. This latter is presumably a transcription from a Judy Collins record; in a past discussion here, Tarwathie, it is shown that Collins learned the song from Sandy Paton, who had it from Ewan MacColl, who had it from A. L. Lloyd, who had it from "John Sinclair, a native of Ballater, in Durban, South Africa, 1938". That set was published in MacColl and Seeger's The Singing Island (1960) and the DT midi is not too far from it. One for a cross-reference; and perhaps some incorporation of background information from the Forum. Roud 2562.

1188 FAITHJON  FAITHFUL JOHNNY.
An obscure American act called "The Pratie Heads" are implicated here, but Jean Redpath is also mentioned (they probably learned it off her recording). She got the song from the Dransfield brothers, who got it from Johnny Handle (John Pandritch), who reportedly got it from an old school songbook, The Merry Piper Song Book for Schools. Midi made from notation in another (not so old) school songbook, Sing Together! 100 Songs for Unison Singing, William Appleby and Frederick Fowler, OUP 1967. Thread 'Faithful Johnny' contains authorship and background information, and some additional verses. Either the tune has changed rather rapidly, or it isn't the same one at all (which is possible; see thread) but this is at least a (moderately) documented alternative. Could do with a midi transcribed from the Redpath or Dransfield records too, really; or even from the Beethoven arrangement!

103 AMPHITRI  THE ANFORD-WRIGHT
From Cox, Folk-Songs of the South. No tune was noted and this appears to be the only example found in tradition of an English broadside ballad,  Loss of the Amphitrite. Roy Palmer, Boxing the Compass, 2001, p. 206, gives details of the event of 1833 which inspired the piece.

No traditional tune known for this one, then (it may never have any one tune associated with it in any case); though the metre is standard and somebody wanting to sing it might try Van Diemen's Land or Lazarus/Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men, for example. Another suitable tune would be Rounding the Horn, which also mentions an Amphitrite, though not necessarily the same one (although Roud does classify it, too, under number 301).


147 ASHLANDM  THE ASHLAND TRAGEDY
Again from Cox, with no tune. Roud 2263.

148 ASHLAND2  THE ASHLAND TRAGEDY II
Another song about the same event, also published without tune.

There is yet a third song here,  THE ASHLAND TRAGEDY III  This time with tune; but all three appear to be unrelated. Roud lists only one further example with a tune: Library of Congress recording 2825 A1, Joe Hubbard, Hamiltown, Virginia, 1938, rec. Hebert Halpert. Discovering which, if any, of these songs it might be would depend on somebody going there and listening to it, presumably.




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