InOBU thanx for the history lesson not that I understood much of it or saw the relevance.

Read whats on the page I am refering to two types of so called traveler found in London..Firstly the Romanian ones who use babies as a a way of extracting sympathy to beg money. Is this a proud tradition of your Romany People.They plant themselves in already overcrowded UK and pay us back for our kindness by claiming social security whilst openly abusing babies on the streets.What else do you call subjecting tiny infants to freezing cold temperatures and all the hazards of roadside begging.

I am also refering to the more serious problem presented by the Irish traveler community who are almost always violent,given to drunken behaviour,and responsible for much of the illegal dumping in the London area,not to mention rip off tarmac laying. As Arnie said you realy wont learn many quaint gypsy chords or history of a noble people from these scoundrels.

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