Hey - we THINK we came up with a good idea. What dya'all think of it? We decided this summer to try to make a tape Of general sing alongs/ patriotic songs/ standard folk & classic songs and finally of "each den make up their own verse " songs. Then at the beginning of the year we're planning to give a copy of the tape & lyrics to each den leader. They'll learn a song or two in dens before each pack meeting. We kinda thought one of the biggest problems was with getting everyone to know the words. If it "dies" while you're trying to get a group thing going because no one remembers the words, it's hard to resurrect it - or even to attempt another. When they know them it - it's much better Here's a few we found to be great - On top of spaghetti - One Bottle of Pop (round) Salvation Army ( change change it a little if you find it objectionable ) This Land is your Land Throw it out the window (Trout fishings version of nursery rhymes) PS We've got a scouting web site started(barely) - so all you scouters visit us & send us some songs - we'll make a site of them at www.directquest.com/Scouting.htm