An interesting difference of opinion here - firstly Brucie I like your attitude everythings cool whether we agree or not I am totally with you on that. Poppagator if your view is true why do all the gurus and spiritual leaders not make records rather than preach and write? It is, as I said; far too superficial a medium to really have a productive effect on any situation or existing state- intellectually and/or politically.Think of the people within music you admire i.e Lennon " I don't believe in Beatles" from the song God. Do you not think he contemplated what he was saying in that song? Dylan also many times has rubbished his best works and said it doesn't really amount to a great deal aesthetically. There is far more to be learned from reading Hegel,Descartes,Ionescu,Marx,etc. than listening to Mr. Zimmerman - believe me; though I do not knock his efforts by any means.

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