CarolC -I have certainly argued in my usual robust way but your reflexive use of the word 'bigot' is quite uncalled for, and not at all reflective of the 'facts and data' I have been giving about myself. Indeed I noticed with irritation that you studiously ignored my attempts to agree with you over Israel/Palestine and my post of 30 Nov (among others) putting forward views which are certainly not characteristic of bigots. This suggested to me that you are some kind of troll determined to disagree at any cost.

With regard to the fanatic tendencies of Islam I suggest we agree to disagree. We are never going to covince each other and are rapidly becoming a two-person thread (I don't count Martin Gibson unless he uses some adult arguments and stops carrying on like a foul-mouthed 5 year old).

It would be helpful if you did not make any 'tail between the legs' comments at this point... (how provocative was that?)