What does CarolC think about genital mutilation, stoning to death, the forced wearing of the veil, lack of sufferage, girls being prevented from going to school,'honour killings', burkas, women being refused even to leave the house for decades on end, the law that dictates that a woman complaining of rape must have four male Muslim witnesses or risk being accused of 'fornication', the fact that even women in the west who criticise these things must go into hiding to survive?

But of course lots of other religions have these problems, or did have one or more of them a century or two ago, or have induvidual members who are nasty.(Block your ears to the screams, people, and remember that to criticise Islam is bigotry!)

I don't know which planet CarolC is on but I would like to visit. It sounds a lot NICER than hard reality. We would sit around all day being NICE to each other, and we would not have to ignore the bleeding obvious to do it.