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GUEST,Jcd Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song (234* d) RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song 21 May 05


David thankyou for your replies. I am aware that the BNP is rapidly trying to disassociate itself from the neo nazi image that has pervaded your organization for so long. It is trying desperately to embrace a new kind of charismatic rapport with the voting public.

Your arguments are carefully worded to appeal to those who thrive on knee jerk reaction. However so as to dispel your myths with fact, we need to examine the picture you are trying to portray of the UK.

The public have been shown to wildly over estimate the number of ethnic minorities living in the UK. A recent poll showed that the majority thought a staggering 22.5% of people living in the UK belong to ethnic minority groups. As you know, this figure is actually three times the true figure, gleaned from census returns.

The introduction to the census returns, whereby new categories of ethnic minority groups were listed, the most recent being Irish and Mixed race, inflated the figures. The true figure of ethnic minority groups living in the Uk is approx 9.9%. Of which 1.4% are mixed race, and 1.2% being Irish.

While the BNP may be gaining support in some areas, as you know,s their highest and most consistent support is not from the working class areas, but traditional Tory stronghold villages. The problems you cite within our inner cities are not leading people to vote BNP in such numbers as to provide a viable solution.

I live in London, and feel more qualified than yourself to comment on the problems we face. We are a vastly multi cultural city, approx 32% of London's population are classed as ethnic minorities. The biggest percentage of these ethnic minority groups are also classed as white. Not black or Asian, as the BNP are trying to portray. In fact our biggest ethnic minority groups are Irish, Turkish and Cypriot. Our Asian and Black population within London are growing at the lowest percentage.

The overall growth rate within ethnic minorities, as you also know, stems from natural causes, as in there are more births than deaths. Which in some way is testament to the skill of staff we employ within our NHS system of overseas workers. They fill posts that the NHS could not fill with UK born and bred folk, as they did not posess the skills required or chose not to take the more domestic jobs available. I will not respond to your 'fear' that third world countries are being left to flounder as we poach their people. But perhaps you could tell us how the BNP is actively helping third world countries, to allay your 'fear' for their survival.

I do not doubt that some people are charmed by the BNP's new style concern for the country. But you have to admit that your leadership relies on some grass root thugs to help spread their word. And your leadership has in the past not helped your cause and until that changes, along with your membership policies, the majority of average thinking voters will see through the charm offensive.

In Oldham you used Rob Bennett to canvass door to door, were the BNP unaware he had served five years for his part in the gang rape of two 17 yr old girls? We both know Dave, that they knew perfectly well his past conviction stood.

When Andy Sykes (a former very high profile BNP member) became disillusioned with what he found within your organization, he became a 'mole' for the TUC and proved very successful at dispelling the image that your party tried to portray. The BBC documentary that he helped happen left no doubts what the underlying attitude amongst both your leaders AND grass root supporters were. This was last year Dave, are you trying to tell us that your party has disassociated itself with all of the ideals it followed less than 12 months ago?

A rise in the BNP profile and seat gaining will have the same result it had in the 90's. Then I was as instrumental in campaigning against your party as you are in campaigning for it. Which is why our opinions will never concur. We closed the S.E London HQ then and Derek Breacon lost his seat.

It was too easy to show the integrity or lack of, in those spearheading your campaigns. Because they were fuelled by race hatred and in the end when 'decent' people find out the backgrounds of those campaigning a particular line, they vote with their feet. At the moment the BNP is enjoying a smoke and mirrors existence. But the radical changes you need, to become a credible threat to the UK party political system, involve your members/leaders cleaning up their act to the point where they couldn't exist. In other words your party needs to be seen as whiter than white ( excuse the saying) but your leaders and members do not fall into that category. Being convicted of inciting race hatred amongst other crimes does not make your party membership credible.

Your recent manifesto, while carefully saying that the immigrants here are welcome, also called for a ban on further immigration. Did you include white Australians , Americans, Canadians and New Zealanders as groups to be refused entry? Your party is trying to dissassociate itself with it's colour ban.

Your objection to inter racial relationships, again does not mention colour. Are you equally objectionable to Anglo/Irish marriages?

Your call for the reintroduction of capital punishment and National Service may win a knee jerk support from some quarters. But you then call for all ex serving National service folk to be able to own and house a modern assault rifle. These are not policies that try to address the UK problems in peaceable means.

You claim that cultures can not exist peacably together. That the mix is a recipe for violence. London has hundreds of multi racial festivals every year. The BNP should try and canvass at these festivals, to see how people can merge. The arrests at these events, as you know, are minute, and far less than those at any internationl football match where English supporters are tarred by the mindless violence that a minority are addicted to.

You claim that London, amongst other cities, is a hot bed of Asian/Black versus white violence. This is not the truth Dave, the biggest rise in London crime stems from black on black violence, borne from a growing drug and gun culture. These are social problems, who's roots lie in the poliarising of rich/poor that inner cities are experiencing.

As duelling points out, the biggest threat to your 'average' white person in our inner cities comes from the growing culture of white excessive drinking and the policing problems relating to that are too well documented for me to bore you with.

Instead of fearing difference, I and the majority of Londoners celebrate and embrace it. It is possible to recognise and respect others cultures, while at the same time maintaining your own. It is also educational to recognise our similarities, regardless of race, creed or sexual preference. Hatred is often borne from fear and ignorance. And although the BNP are back pedalling to dish up a more palatable meal, the fact remains that they muddy waters to breed fear amongst those too lazy to seek out the factual truth.

Your recent 'folk song' party political broadcast, was I admit one of your classier moves. You are targetting the area that is by definition most likely to offer support, but in the end Dave, the smoke will disperse and the mirrors will crack and once again you will be met with truth.




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