So, Clinton, I'm still waiting for those references to the "reams and reams of medical opinion and research" that contradicts what I said about the medical benefits of circumcision. If you're going to make a statement like that, it would be helpful if you could back it up.

By the way, Peace, your comment about the ladder reminds me of the summer job I had while I was in medical school, teaching CPR to firemen and running with the rescue squads--this was in 1974, when there was only one MICU and half a dozen paramedics in the entire city of Philadelphia. I spent a lot of time in firehouses that summer. One of the firemen's favorite TV shows was "Emergency!", later renamed "Emergency 911." I'd be watching the show with them, and would be saying things like, "Hey, you can't give that medication intramuscularly, it has to be given IV." And the firemen would say things like, "Hey, you'd never go into a building that size with a 2 1/2 inch hose...gotta be at least a 3 1/2!"

Aloha,
Mark

(PS Note that I'm not saying that those medical benefits justify the procedure, only that they exist.)