Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafesj



User Name Thread Name Subject Posted
GUEST,Dr Price Folklore: Tabwrdd or Tabor info (6) RE: Folklore: Tabwrdd or Tabor info 19 Jan 06


I'm sorry I neglected this thread, but I was following up other clues concerning the tabwrdd. There's a pic of the tabwrdd on www.welshtraditionalmusic.com , but info is pretty scarce.

Sîan, thanks a lot for the help on David Petersen; for those who don't know, he is an artist/blacksmith who lives in West Wales and is on the committee of the gigantic Lorient Interceltic Festival. David has an interest in the tabwrdd – he says that a tabwrdd was a signalling drum, not a marching drum. He entered the eisteddfod with a dancer, the purpose being to communicate; he would tap out a bar with his tabwrdd, and the dancer would "answer" with his feet. The eisteddfod judges went spare. The demanded evidence that the tabwrdd was a Welsh instrument, which David took back to D Roy Saer, keeper at the Museum Of Welsh Life. Roy couldn't believe his eyes, and handed the judges overwhelming proof that the tabwrdd was a folk instrument. The dancer entered the competition again, and won it twice.

Greg, all I am saying is that from time immemorial, the earliest folk instrument was a drum, something to beat out a message. The North Wales tabwrdd existed 700 years ago, much as the English tabor was extant 1,000 years ago. The Welsh 'tabwrdd' and the English 'tabor' both come from the French 'tambour', a word which goes back to the Persian 'tabîr'. The Welsh pronounced it 'tabwrdd' (bwrdd means a board or table, which describes the drum as something you could have a meal off!) Its Northern origins had become spread out, because Roy Saer says there was a tabwrdd player who was living in Llandeilo in the 18th century.
Sorry about the lack of pictures, but I have a problem with my digi-camera – I could email you some pictures of the tabwrdd which Marcus Music made for me (to an ancient design which Ceri Rhys Matthews and Cass Meurig researched.) I don't know if this is allowed, but could I have your e-address, please?


Post to this Thread -

Back to the Main Forum Page

By clicking on the User Name, you will requery the forum for that user. You will see everything that he or she has posted with that Mudcat name.

By clicking on the Thread Name, you will be sent to the Forum on that thread as if you selected it from the main Mudcat Forum page.

By clicking on the Subject, you will also go to the thread as if you selected it from the original Forum page, but also go directly to that particular message.

By clicking on the Date (Posted), you will dig out every message posted that day.

Try it all, you will see.