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GUEST,G BS: Joining the Immigration Rights Marches? (69* d) RE: BS: Joining the Immigration Rights Marches? 10 Apr 06


Dewey, do you live in the U.S.? Where does YOUR information stem from with regard "to the jobs are poor, bad economy.......?"

To the contrary, jobs for college graduates are at an all time high with regard to availibility and starting wages. Start wages of $80,000 are not uncommon. (of course, there is that thing about obtaining an education) And naturally there are the comments regarding having 2 or 3 jobs. That always happens. I remember when WJC said "jobs are plentiful" and some answering "yeah, I know, i have 3 of them" referring to low wage jobs. It is all about education and with a dropout rate of close to 50% in the inner cities and no will to work, the non-citizen will continue to come here to fill the lower paying jobs, as well as a lot of th better paying jobs
There are jobs in the $12-$15 range that are not being taken by eligible citizens. The dole from the Government is too easy.

Has anyone thought about the fact of the Mexicans paying for their housing and living expenses, unlike the welfare people? Granted, some of the strain is on medical facilities as they can't obtain insurance due to citizenship. Whoever said they don't pay income taxes and Social Security has not a clue. Most do have jobs that require them to pay these. They use a fictictious SS number which guarantees them they will never have the advantage of that fund.

Think about it, people! Do you think the Wendy's, professional landscape companies, respected building trades, etc., are hiring them without paying the required taxes. Not a chance!

I rented to them for a number of years where the 8 unit building was filled with Mexicans with either a visa or a green card. They work 10-12 hours a day, are frugal, they do send money back to Mexico and also save to buy homes. All in this particular 8 unit building now are American born citizens who don't exhibit the same tendancies to get ahead. The Mexicans have all purchased homes.

No marching for me however, they are not legally in this country. What we do need to do is change the archaic immigration laws. This has been going on for many years (not the fault of GWB) and our illustrious Congress has been ignoring it like they do most other important things.

As far as low paying jobs, migrant workers have been coming here to harvest for many years. Their attempts at immigrating legally have been thwarted. Too much red tape, 10 years to wait is not unexpected. By the way, the estimate of Mexicans doing the farm stuff is estimated at 3% of the total population of legal/illegals.

Back to the renting, I will not rent to those on any form of Governmnt welfare, and yes, there are many ways around it. I was a semi-nonpaid job provider until a years ago. A male resident, age about 34 who was living with an older women with their only income a monthly government check, very healthy and strong, was offered a job starting at $13 per hour with benefits. He kept arguing that he could not read or write. The person who was going to give him a daily ride to the job site, fill out the man's time card, deliver him back to his door step every day, could not convince him. I tried and tried and finally lost my patience. This guy could do backflips (after several beers) and just watched TV all day. When I did lose my patience, it was to call him some rather unfriendly names which led to my not providing the job finding service any longer.

By the way, the gentleman who first tried to get the guy to take the job was a supervisor at an irrigation company.
Oh yes, one other thing, he was a greencard Mexican worhing on his citizenship.

I know this is mainly antecdotal but find that it is the overall broad example of what is going on.


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