Sorry chaps! Seem to have missed the old point again - thread's not about guns but about gun CONTROLS : as luck would have it, I do know a thing or two about them. Apparently there are about two of them: one is known as the safety catch and seems to be to stop the thing from going off, and the second is known as a trigger which appears to have the opposite effect - this would seem a rather counter-productive arrangement to me, and I believe that the earliest models were fitted with neither and were prone to kill as many people behind them as in front of them - a dterrent so effective that all four of the Three Musketeers relied exclusively on their swords, so maybe these gun control opponents have a point. Possibly a compromise position might be reached and that dangerous-sounding control removed leaving only the safe-sounding one. Sorry chaps, can't be your President - not a natural-born American - they used forceps!