So have the wise and wonderfull old timers of mudcat been in existence so long they are becoming tired of new opinion? Then this is the death knell of Mudcat. You would do better to point new souls to the old threads than to require all new mudcatters to read the reams of __ that you once wrote before. No insult intended, I read most of what is written with interest, but the flavour of the most recent comments is wrong. If you don't like the thread don't contribute - you have the right.