freda underhill, I was curious about your comment that AVG is turning into a paid subscription. I have AVG and haven't received any notices that it's going to cost me in future. I just updated on Monday night without a peep. I also run Ad-Aware SE Personal and Spybot for free. I had a run-in with WinXP IE7, but I turned off the update features. I still get little window update offers while I'm in the middle of a blog or surfing the web. I find it both intrusive and annoying. I can't wait till I have to buy a new PC or laptop to then pay through the nose for Vista Premium, but that's another thread altogether. Good luck.