Ake: If you truly have spent all this time and energy arguing a point that IS NOT your personal opinion, I can only say that you must be a very conflicted and sad person. As I said in an earlier post, I don't buy it--"devil's advocate" arguments only go so far. If you feel you've been abused, then maybe you SHOULD bring out your personal opinion. Maybe we'd respect it more than that of someone who claims to be arguing just for argument's sake.

Your patience isn't the only thing wearing thin. Whenever you don't have a reasoned rebuttal, you fall back on the old 'I'm rubber, you're glue" tactic of telling us all that we lack objectivity.   And telling us why we want to shift the goalposts? You sure as hell don't speak for me or have the faintest idea what is in my head or my heart...despite my repeated attempts to reasonably enlighten you.

I'd despair for the future of Scotland, but luckily, Ewan Macgregor balances you out (and then some!) so I feel reassured. ;)

Molly