Ake...I don't accept "Christian" marriage as a valid basis for civil legislation, as we do have separation of church and state (at least in the US). And as a self-proclaimed atheist, I'm surprised that you do. At any rate, if you're going to toss around terms like "thousands of years", you have to allow for more cultural input than just "Christian or civil" marriage. You brought Muslims into this by claiming that their beliefs are being compromised, so you can't go back now and say we're speaking of Christian values only. And as I pointed out earlier, you've been quick to claim that a majority of people *worldwide* find homosexuality disgusting. At some point you're going to have to nail yourself down to one position if you want your arguments taken seriously.

I didn't know it was possible for me to ramble MORE. I'll have to try harder. ;)