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Crowdercref Ever played a Welsh Crwth? (67* d) RE: Ever played a Welsh Crwth? 19 Sep 07


FYI in middle English and Cornish we find cruit, crouth, crowd. Hence the surnames crouther and crowder.

By the way, sadly I don't have a crwth. I have a three string Cornish Crowd - the functional equivalent of the Welsh crwth trythant - the apprentice instrument. Mine is modelled on iconography dating about 1525 - a pew end carving at Altarnun.

There is also a carving of a crwth (perhaps with 4 strings) at Cotehele house in East Cornwall. But the carving is believed to have come from Wales.

There is no evident of post-medieval crwth survival in Cornwall, though it is hinted at just a bit by the continued use of the words crowd and crowder to mean any sort of fiddle/fiddler.

The cref in crowdercref means 'great' or 'big', hence - big fiddler!

Us crowders aren't proud!

Oll an gwella

Crowdercref


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