John,

I really admire your courage in admitting that you're having a problem with alcohol. It's not easy to admit to yourself, let alone others, that you need some help. But don't let it stop here. If you don't take any action, nothing will change. Like others have said, there is lots of support and treatment out there. You're not alone with this--many people know firsthand what you're going through. Talk to them. And don't only do it for your loved ones, do it for YOU.

And Jon Freeman, sounds like you may be in the same boat. Why do you say you're past the point of caring? I keep writing things here in this message and then erasing them because it all sounds so contrite and stupid--obviously, I don't know what to say but I've always enjoyed your posts in the past and I had to say something.

Neither of you deserves to suffer this way...sending good wishes to both of you.