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GUEST,Steve Baughman Folklore: Amazing Grace. Should We Be Singing it?? (230* d) RE: Folklore: Amazing Grace. Should We Be Singing it?? 12 Jan 08


"it isn't about evidence but faith." WRONG! If you are making a propositional claim, (ie. Jesus was God), then you are epistemically obligated to base that on evidence. Otherwise you can spout off whatever you want, and when challenged simply retreat to the last bastion of the intellectual coward, "Faith", (which I refer to as the "F" word). Once someone invokes the F word, meaningful discussion ends. Faith does not JUSTIFY belief, it simply provides the willing believer with a way out of having to justify her choice of beliefs.

Little Hawk and Don, I love y'all's view of God, strongly prefer it to the Christian and Islamist views of God as human on steroids (really really strong steroids). And sure, if we say "god is everything," that might make us treat other creatures nicerly, as LH points out, but it really isn't saying anything about God, just about the way we define him.

I vote that we all be nicer even though we don't care whether god is everything or not.




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