"Sure, why would someone want to listen to you when there are others who are trying to make a living with their music and deserve support."

Christ on a friggin' bike, why are Mudcatters so obtuse?

Ron, Ron oh Ron... can't you see that that was exactly the point I was trying to make?

As for hats and trouble: do we not think the folk world could handle a bit of good old "trouble" (behatted or otherwise) to shake it out of its complacency?

You're right about one thing though, Ron - the UK folk world is heaving with snobs. That's why every morning I look inthe mirror and thank the "lord" I'm not a folkie...

Snail: Ok, we'll call it a "continuum" if it makes you happy. I'm at one end. Can we agree SOMEONE must be at the other? Doesn't matter where you draw the "dividing line" (your term, not mine). Wherever you want, I s'pose.