Ed, until an unknown person (or perhaps persons plural, but I somehow doubt it) decided to troll the thread under a number of identities, it was actually quite a peaceable well-mannered discussion (as was pointed out by Pip and Raymond). After it turned crap however some Mudcat regulars turned up to say "I told you so, Mudcat's horrible and this thread proves it!"

This trolling and in particular the backlash it caused, made one of our nice guys Will Fly to feel pretty crap about starting this thread, so much so that he felt like buggering off. That's a shame, because it clearly wasn't his fault, or indeed the fault of any genuine Mudcatters (regular GUESTS included).

I guess all I'm getting at is that if you weed out the trolls, Mudcat clearly isn't all that bad, but unfortunately it is easy to turn it into a crap place if you feel like signing in under multiple GUEST identities, as was suspected and indeed has been demonstrated here.