That's exactly my point Peter. I paid my subs for years at FM as I said earlier - If not funding Knockholt - as set out in the constitution - where is the money going? If it is to fund guests that cannot draw enough supporters to cover their fee then the argument that it's not fair to subsidise a bit of firewoods and 3 or 4 potrtaloos for the campers doesn't hold water. Yes I would pay £50+ for the few days at KH. But in principle To be expected to pay up to £130 a year to subsidise minority appeal guests, Bring your own food to Xmas party and pay for Knockholt is too much to askof loyal folkmob attendees (sadly no me these days) Why not call the new set-up The Knockholt Club with Mick F as honarary chairman and have an elected committee of 4 or 5 people who must have something to contribute.