(not sure what happened to the post above, so here it is again)

You know, it is the way of the cyber-bully to use only a certain part of what someone has said in order to paint them in the dark colours they so love to try and paint their prey in.

Here is the full version of what I said, Dave, and please note the very first part of the paragraph which, of course, you chose, as ever, to leave out:

>>>"It will always be, ultimately, the man's fault, of course it will, BUT women need to get real, need to become far more responsible again, stop acting like hookers 'just because we can and we want to' and put some bloody intelligence and self-respect back in their heads, rather than constantly thinking it's their 'right' to tease a man as much as they want, or to get utterly plastered to the point where they can't even remember what they did, who they may have done it with, or even if they did it willingly or not."<<<

And don't call me Liz, for there is only one person on here who I am happy to call me by that name, which was the name my Dad always called me by. Therefore, only a person for whom I have the highest respect and/or love has 'my' permission to call me by that name.

You most certainly have neither my respect, nor my love.

You also know that it upsets me when others refer to me in this manner, which is, of course, why you do it.

Go and write in the Cyber-Bully thread, for you may feel more at home there, although Savile was a nasty piece of work...so.......

Thank you