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GUEST,Jack Sprocket BS: Thoughts on 'Substitutionary Atonement' (98* d) RE: BS: Thoughts on 'Substitutionary Atonement' 11 Jul 13


According to Josephus, the Romans crucified anybody they caught trying to escape from Jerusalem in the siege of 70AD. Some thousands were dispatched this way, so much that they ran out of wood. And a hundred years before the believed time of Jesus, six thousand of Spartacus' followers were crucified when the revolt was suppressed (see Life of Brian). So it was nothing unusual at the time, though the vast majority of the victims didn't have the advantage of being God on Earth, and consequently didn't know it was just a minor temporary discomfort, like having a baby before the days of gas and air.

Can gods be uncomfortable? I know they can be angry (1), pleased (2), and ignorant(3) - the Bible says so.

(1) Lots of this. Noah, Sod 'em and Glockamorra etc.
(2) "This is my beloved Son..."; and Genesis.
(3) Genesis again. What if Adam did eat of the Tree of Life? God only knows, except according to the Bible he didn't; and he didn't seem to know he was going to eat the Fruit of Knowledge of Good and Evil (Fokogae, better known as Apple).

Ebbie: that doesn't work either. Jesus WAS the One God, and being omniscient can't have surprises: being omnipotent, he can stop being God, OK- but how does he start again (He's stopped being God, and there was only ONE God, so he's just a man)- see the tale of Alastair and the giant, where he flattered the giant into shrinking to an insect then stamped on him. Poor Jesus, he must really regret letting the Greeks get hold of him; he could have been like Buddha, remembered for his message, there's not much to beat the Sermon on the Mount, rather than some "conjuring trick with bones".


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