Look, the rest of us can dream on about you lot growing up and becoming positive for once, but you gang of six or so have got some serious mind problems and it's not going to happen. The fact you don't get the message when the mods cut it short and kick off yet again must surely tell you - all of you - that none of you should be posting here or anywhere else for a very long time, while you get a life. When a gang of utter egocentrics takes over a site, destroying what they claim to care for and getting most people pissed off to the back teeth, to the point of destroying the site's once considerable reputation, then there's something seriously wrong with each and every one of you.