The Alaska Folk Festival, put on in Juneau, just completed its 40th year. The festival is run by (unpaid) volunteers, including the 7-person Board who each serve for three years, the cost for putting it on is more than $45000 (yes, 45 thousand dollars). Our costs are met through memberships and merchandise sales. Except for the Guest Artist(s) no one gets paid for their 15 minute sets- and we usually have more than 75 applicants from all over Alaska put on Standby, although through attrition and the occasional no-show, most of them do eventually get on. We also have three nights of dances, 3 or 4 a night, 45 minutes a whack. No one gets paid for that either, except for a Guest Caller.

We do sell lots of CDs for performers and some bands negotiate a gig downtown for a night or two.

The only time I have ever gotten tired of playing music was when I was being paid for it. We played for dances and weddings for six years; our remuneration was small but what we were doing was *work*. Jamming or just listening to live music comes under the heading of *pleasure*.