fair comment, ed. I concede that politics and tradition filtered into it as well. what a good person you present yourself as, musket. some things I would qualify, but in general, no argument with your list. of course I would say that even atheists are made in the image of God and therefore still posses a sense of right and wrong. the bible refers to the heathen doing by instinct those things contained in the law and their consciences either accusing or excusing them. this was in context of contrast with the religious who know to do good but don't do it. oh, and you dont even meet your own compass points entirely. you do tell others whats right and wrong, when you don one or another of your club hats
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