bill..tried 17 ways....been counting ? apart from words having often range of meaning and evolving [smile] as long as I explain what I mean [if need be] I don't see much of a problem. using the term -evolutionist- is loaded..... and -creationist- is not ? "it seems to me" is merely an admission that I might be missing something in the argument, and trying not to sound too combative. re [3,] specific examples....well stuff like dating rocks of known recent age as myo. would you like the specific examples when I got more time ? re [3a] "..refuting the idea..." at least in your estimation ! re [4a] you have a point there, I concede. you would be happy if you achieved a theistic evolutionist result with me, I believe. "...the 'easier' way...? going against the flow at best and martyrdom at worst ?!. very apt word you coined, bill. I will leave it up to you bill. all the time someone posts on the topic, assuming 1/2 way civility I will probably answer. those who post abuse and ad hominem only demonstrate their evangelical atheistic philosophy/religion. I predict, that should you close this, one of them will start another, such is their crusading fervour.
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