It is odd. UKIP of course give the impression of a protest vote and their policies do not stand scrutiny at any level, not matter how much you try to see what they could actually offer. They seem to offer lala land for bigots and racists but there you go.

SNP however are just the Labour Party without the Westminster whip. The origins of a party committed to independence, let's face it, could be on the left or right, socialist or capitalist in outlook. But in order to win votes you need to display policies. Hence a liberal outlook built on equality and social infrastructure. They obviously know the minds of Scots, even if they did get the mood wrong when it came to what they reckon is their fundamental reason for existing. I'm still chuckling over it.

The clever trick being that people like me could easily like what they aim to do day to day whilst those who want independence at any cost also vote for them even though SNP politicians would find their views abhorrent.

Good example here on Mudcat by the way.