By the way, I don't know who these here "atheist evangelists" are. Not me, surely. I don't think I've ever started a thread on religion. I only react. I do love to rattle on about it, I admit. But I never start it. You'd have thought that an evangelical type would be starting thread after thread. And I only argue against believers' concepts of a God that are put up here. I don't know whether there's a God or not (as with every other sentient being on Earth). I only know what I've worked out for myself by way of probabilities and I like to put the case. Tell me your evidence and prove me wrong. I'm all ears.