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Sandra in Sydney Lyr Add: Farewell to Anzac (C. Fox Smith) (20) RE: Lyr Add: Farewell to Anzac (C. Fox Smith) 24 Apr 15


Charley - there is scholarly doubt at the moment about Kemal Ataturk's exact words

Ataturk's 'Johnnies and Mehmets' words about the Anzacs are shrouded in doubt The heartfelt speech attributed to Ataturk about Turks and Australians in Gallipoli is historically dubious, extensive research shows
These famous, heart-rending words, attributed to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, who was a commander of Ottoman forces at the Dardenelles during the first world war and later the founder of modern Turkey, grace memorials on three continents, including at Anzac Cove, Gallipoli. A procession of Australian prime ministers, from Bob Hawke to Kevin Rudd to Tony Abbott, have spoken them to invoke a supposedly special bond between Australia and Turkey forged amid the slaughter of the 1915 Gallipoli campaign in which some 8,700 Australian and more than 80,000 Ottoman troops died.

As Australia prepares to commemorate the centenary of the British invasion of Gallipoli on 25 April, the authenticity of these emotive words, supposedly uttered in 1934 and interpreted in Australia as a heartfelt consolation to grieving Anzac mothers, are being challenged with assertions that there is no credible definitive evidence Ataturk ever wrote or spoke them.

Cengiz Ozakinci, a Turkish writer about his country's politics and history, has spent a decade researching the purported Ataturk quote. (read on)

Martyn sang Anzac when he appeared at The Dog earlier this year

sandra


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