I got as far as "you are saying Musket that atheists don't abuse children" in your first sentence and didn't bother getting any further. I know I franchised Musket out to two mates but I doubt any of us, all of whom have been professionally involved with child protection and safeguarding would be saying that. Of course, some people might read your saying we said it without having read what we did put. Is that the idea? You've been getting lessons from Terribulus and Keith A Hole of Hertford if that's the case.

If you wish to act like a grown up Joe, start with statements that exhibit mature comment.

Like I said. If someone says a catholic standpoint is x, then I either expect the Pope's many managers and team leaders to put out a correction and ask the person to stop saying it or the catholic view really is x and Joe is out of tune. Is the Vatican spokesman who called the Irish vote a sad day for humanity still in a job? (The answer by the way is yes.)

If the Catholic Church has no consensus on an issue, it should stop people saying that it has.

ditto any club that thinks it has a mandate beyond its members.

Although you know, I think the Pope seems happy with the stance of the old bigots who organise his money making ventures for him.