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Bill D BS: Guns - keep banging the rocks together (147* d) RE: BS: Guns - keep banging the rocks together 04 Aug 15


" I do not understand the mentality of a nation that meekly accepts this kind of incident..."

Again... you have not framed the point quite right. A **nation** does not have a 'mentality'. Of course it is hard to accept that the damned killings go on & on... but "we don't need guns because our government is man-enough to keep strong control on gun-ownership," does not explain WHY the problem persists! Somehow, even with all good reason & intentions, you cannot take in the multi-faceted Catch-22 squared that we are dealing with.

The 'government' is bound by the Constitution. The Constitution is interpreted by the Supreme Court. It can only be changed by an amendment. An amendment needs to be introduced by some member(s) of Congress...or by a Constitutional Convention

Either of these require VOTES...first IN Congress, then by the states to ratify any amendment that does manage to pass. This can take years, and requires 3/4 of the states -38 states:

"To become an operative part of the Constitution, an amendment, whether proposed by Congress or a national Constitutional Convention, must be ratified by either:
The legislatures of three-fourths (at present 38) of the states;

OR
State ratifying conventions in three-fourths (at present 38) of the states.

"Congress has specified the state legislature ratification method for all but one amendment. The ratifying convention method was used for the Twenty-first Amendment, which became part of the Constitution in 1933.

Since the turn of the 20th century, amendment proposals sent to the states for ratification have generally contained a seven year ratification deadline, either in the body of the amendment or in the resolving clause of the joint resolution proposing it.
"


IN THE MEANTIME the NRA and all the nuts are throwing $$$$$ and/or threatening to start shooting MORE people with the guns they already have!

I suppose that IF the meek people who do NOT like guns were to GET guns, and our cowardly government which is already awash with supporters of the NRA, were to unleash the army... which is largely composed OF those who DO like guns... were to band together and start another Civil War, they could eventually quash the NRA-- proving, in the process to the gun nuts that they were right all along about having their traditional 'rights' usurped, we 'might' ...sort of... get some measure of control over firearms. Such an interesting 'victory'....

Solving our gun problem is as deep and complex as bringing peace to the Middle East or sorting out the Russian/Balkans disputes. You MUST understand that there are hundreds of thousands willing to use the many guns they already have to prevent any aspect of the government controlling those guns! It is as close to genetic as it can be! It is like religion... and indeed in many minds, it has been connected TO religion. "We God-fearing Christians came this country to escape tyranny! And we won't submit to having the 'rights' were were given in 1789 taken away!"

Again... it is a Catch-223

You help us solve it and we'll explain to you how to end racial tensions AND end all the problems of the monarchy! Deal?


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