It's weird, innit. We start a thread on trying to find unbiased sources, and the two institutions in the UK that try their damnedest more than all the others to give fair coverage, the Beeb and the Guardian (for all their faults, which are many) are the ones that get it in the neck from the usual-suspect regular backwoodsmen (with apologies to him of the capital B). Not a word of demurral from them against the disreputable Murdoch media stable or the Daily Mail.

And I take your point, Stim. Journalism, in this capitalist world of ours, has to make money just like any other industry. Even the Beeb has to watch its news ratings versus ITV and Channel 4. This colours everything we ever hear or read in the news. Bias is rampant. As responsible citizens it behoves us treat the news with healthy scepticism, having regard to the reputation of its sources, and to garner as many sources as possible. Lame attacks on the Beeb's or the Guardian's coverage of Israel, simply because they fail to feed your own prejudices, are just dismal. I'd also add that both the Beeb and the Guardian fearlessly allow the airing of extremely diverse opinion in their political programmes/comment and debate columns. If you deny this, you simply haven't been watching or reading.