Two dreadful posts from Joe, ignorance mixed with bitterness and frustration. Take this:
"... but it's clear to me that they're sincerely worried that what Pete and I and others believe is going to do serious harm to the universe."
It is not dealing in semantics to remind you that I've said at least twenty times, maybe as many as eight, that it's not what you believe. It's what you DO with those beliefs, especially to children.
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