Shimrod, the hostility I get here (which involves far more personal attacks than I ever mete out these days: I prefer to put my points as plainly as I can, that's all) actually cheers me up in a peculiar way. It is a reflection of the fact that they feel very uncomfortable about having real challenges put to them for a change, something they never get within their cosy club, not even from other religious groups, which all share similar sentiments. I think that the new brand of attack atheism is an excellent thing. Religion has done so much damage and had it far too easy for far too long and it's time it was put under attack and made to account for itself. Its unpreparedness for this is reflected in the responses from believers we often see here. Heretics unite!