I do believe, stu, that I have googled scientific method before, and I,m pretty sure it has included in it ,observable, testable, repeatable experiment .....all of which is not available to origins investigation. Yes you can make calculations but they are worldview interpreted and not unassailable fact.                   So Steve , you think it fair game to mock creationists and label us all idiots. Hardly a scientific argument ! , but when you are not able to defend your own faith position , I guess argument by derision is all you have to work with.                         And acme, I would argue that creationists do not dismiss science, and in fact use what is known in science to dismiss evolutionism...or rather demonstrate how it don't stack up.