Bill, you are moving the goal posts again. You already know that I don't claim to be able to give conclusive evidence of the details of my Christian faith , though if we keep to the subject of origins , I think the biblical model is more in line with science , whereas evolutionism is often opposite to the evidence. Same goes to shimrod , concerning whom, I do not plan to push what I say is a suggestion , and look up sources , when he never provides any evidence to support his assertions.