DMcG: " ...where Catholicism was first mentioned, but it was Steve who raised it. I wouldn't want anyone to feel I had misled them over that!" Steve, among others, who along with Steve, who in their youth, were probably 'put-off' by the Catholic Church, cannot differentiate between 'Catholicism', 'religion', 'God' and/or science, that include metaphysics....To them they have found 'refuge' in clinging to a partial understanding of, what they WANT to BELIEVE, in science....even if they have to stop up their ears, to a deeper understand...that being said, I am not exactly 'faulting' Steve and the others for that..I'm sure the disillusionment ran deep and caused hurtful damage... I think that if they opened their minds and hearts, to a deeper and wider understanding, they could become very effective warriors for truth...where science and spiritualism meet...and verify each other....but to realize that end, one needs to leave 'politics' and 'religion' out of it......as any dedicated, successful researcher would also tell you! GfS
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