That can't be gainsaid, Stu, but imagine a theoretical world in which there was no religion, no churches, no synagogues, no mosques. Do you think that we'd shelter the homeless less, run food banks less, give less succour to those in distress? I don't think so. Kudos to religions for doing those works. We atheists/agnostics/ don't-give-a-damners lack the organisation to operate as they do, which is an observation only, not meant as sour grapes. Local religious groups are vital for our communities in today's context. It's the provisos that come with them that I can't stomach. The baggage, if you like.