Have had some trouble with getting posts to take so Bobad, Steve and McGrath have posted since I last tried. Am not sure that McGrath's last post refers to Bobad, though it may. Also aware that Steve is a man of strong opinions and that he can be vitriolic.

I take it that both of you know Bobad and that Bobad is in the UK. Gonna stay out of any fights regarding that. Haven't read enough of Bobad's posts myself over time to have formed an impression, so please forgive if I am being naive in attempting to discuss.

Copying my last failed post, and not the first one in an effort toward some continuity in communication. Here is what I attempted to post last time:

Bobad, I apologize if I am misunderstanding your posts to single out Islam, but Islam is the only religion your posts have addressed thus far, and none of your posts have addressed homophobia as it exists in the general western population, including those who are non-religious.

I don't think I understand the relevance of your question re do I disagree with Maajid Nawaz. Never heard of him until I viewed your youtube link, then did a very quick and un-thorough Google search for a little more information.

There are those who follow Frank Graham, the son of Billy Graham, and who is noted for his homophobic attitudes.

Hitler was not religious.

I have clients (and a few colleagues) whose university education is from Liberty College,founded by Jerry Falwell, a very right wing 'Christian' preacher who had/has a strong following. The school's current leaders continue to be strongly homophobic and also, from my perspective, 2nd amendment 'gun nuts.'

I don't understand how the likes of Maajid Nawaz, who happens to be Muslim, should be considered in any more destructive light than similar figures within the USA Christian faith/institutions.

I think somehow we are talking past each other. Trying to figure out how to remedy that.