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Steve Shaw BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit (1036* d) RE: BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit 14 Jun 16


A post replete with delusions.

First, as in Orwell 1984-mode, the threat from the USSR, a basket case of a country for decades (wanna disagree?) was exaggerated out of all proportion for decades to prop up the NATO alliance. The upshot was a miserable money-wasting, stultifying and depressing Cold War for which the US was largely responsible and we couldn't do a bloody thing about it. We were kept firmly onside by being told that was two minutes to nuclear midnight for decades. Insane. What a way to live. And your hero Maggie even let the yanks plant their nukes in this country, which, had your big Russian bear threat been true, would have seen us cowering in the bunkers for a decade. Wonder why it didn't. Perhaps because those pesky Ruskies were too weak to do anything about it? One up for sovereignty, eh, Teribus? We do what the yanks tell us and you know it. Harold Wilson, to his credit, stood up to them over Vietnam and look where it got him (I don't credit him with much else, before you start).

I love the way you share blame for the Cold War so equitably. Would you care to share the blame for, lessee, WW2, the Falklands War or Saddam's invasion of Kuwait just as equitably? Tell us who you think saved us from Armageddon in 1962. How distance lends enchantment to the view...

Far worse scenarios than the EU melting down? What, you mean far worse than the prospect of coups in several countries, the prospect of more Balkan wars (unless you think they all now love each other to bits), a massive immigrant/refugee crisis? Or do you think such a collapse will take place at a time of great calm and economic prosperity, all nice and orderly? It would be the worst thing to happen to this planet since the world wars. Far worse things my arse.

I said "in many regards." The return of the good old empire was not one of the regards I had in mind. Stop making things up.

Wars between France and Germany? When was the last war between France and Germany that we didn't have to be in on, then?

Since when have anti-war protesters ever stopped a war?

Yugoslavia was not in the EU when it broke up. The countries there are in the EU now and are democracies. The ethnic tensions are still there but the wars have gone. To what do you ascribe that? Godly intervention??


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