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Steve Shaw BS: Whither Scotland, Northern Ireland? (164* d) RE: BS: Whither Scotland, Northern Ireland? 09 Jul 16


I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face. A decision to leave the EU has been taken by less that 38% of the registered electorate. I'm not making any claims about how the non-voters might have voted. I am saying that this referendum was not like a general election. If we don't like what elected politicians do we can always boot them out. But this decision, if it goes ahead, which I hope it won't, is irrevocable. Once we are are out, we won't be reapplying, even if we can. Ain't going to happen. Irrevocable decisions to change the long-standing status quo should always be predicated on a high turnout (75%?) and a high threshold (two-thirds of the actual vote?). Because this was not put in place, I'm contending that the referendum was unfair and undemocratic. There are plenty of other arguments, to do with the shabby way the campaign was conducted by both sides, that further erode whatever democratic credentials this process was supposed to possess. It is not democratic to induce fearful uncertainty in people when you completely lack certainty yourself. It is not democratic to lie about how much we pay into the EU. It is not democratic to persuade people that you can control immigration when you can't. As we will see over the next few years.


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