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Steve Shaw BS: What does 'anti-semitism' mean? (563* d) RE: BS: What does 'anti-semitism' mean? 15 Oct 16


I've always been pro-Israel. I condemn people who call for Israel to be wiped off the map. Whatever our take on the history, we are, as they say, where we are, and it behoves us to try to promote the wellbeing and security of the eight million people, all of them, Jews and non-Jews, who live there, by now almost all of them BORN there, lest we forget. No-one chooses where to get born. I believe that arguing against settlements, against an apartheid wall, against constant bellicose incursions into neighbouring territories and against the blatant discrimination against minorities, that I am condemning the regime but supporting the ordinary Israeli citizens, because I'm arguing for solutions, which may well involve compromises, that will eventually increase that wellbeing and security. When I talk about pro-Israel lobbies, I'm talking about organisations who actively support or promote the policies of the regime in Israel. I am not talking about Jews. There are plenty of non-Jews in pro-Israel lobby groups. They will tell you that they are supporting the Israeli people, but what they are actually doing is arguing for the perpetuation of hostilities between Israel and its neighbours by supporting the injustices that take place in the country. AIPAC in particular, which hovers like a hawk over US politicians, makes sure that there will be no meaningful peace talks because they do not recognise any need for compromises. And why would they, when the US provides three billion dollars' worth of military aid per annum with absolutely no conditions attached. All that aid for a country of eight million. Feeling secure must be long way off for most Israelis. One day they'll look at their own regime and see why.


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