Well done Iains and Stanron, you've absolutely trounced the "Usual Suspects" yet again using logic, common sense and irrefutable fact.

They've admitted their defeat as Shaw has now wandered off on the "Flora and Fauna" track with a Sainsbury's Advert thrown in either for good measure, or just to confirm his admission of defeat.

Question for our former Trades Union activists who witter on about elections, voter turn out, votes.

UNITE Trades Union - 1,382,126

Last leadership election:

Len McCluskey: 144,570 votes.

Jerry Hicks: 79,819 votes.

Number of ballot papers found to be invalid: 1,412.

Total number of valid votes cast: 224,389.

Turnout: 15.2 per cent.

Now because Corbyn's pal got in you will not hear any of them murmur about the voices of the 84.8% of the members who were entitled to vote but who didn't.