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DMcG BS: UK General Election (410* d) RE: BS: UK General Election 30 Apr 17


There are at least two things wrong with the "strong and stable government". Firstly, as McGrath pointed out, being a strong government may or may not be a good thing for its citizens and the long term future of the country. Every one of us can name at least three strong and stable governments we would want nothing whatsoever to do with. Strength is not a good thing in itself, it is all about what you do with that strength. We may find out when the manifestos are issued, or we may not.

Secondly, when any phrase is used as an alternative to thinking it is extremely dangerous. Blairism was full of such things, and I don't think you will find any defenders of Blair on this forum. We are entering a long period where careful thought is crucial. Many are focusing on the next two years; I would say the 5 years afterwards are probably more important, as we go through the regulations brought under UK law by the Repeal Act and decide which to keep, to modify and to scrap. As my little discussion with Teribus shows, it is dreadfully easy to scrap a regulation because you can see an industry would be better off without it, without being aware that in doing so you inflict a much greater harm on other businesses. We cannot afford to make those kind of mistakes.

So let's try a little thought experiment. May has been absolutely clear that in the case of the EU 'a bad deal for Britain is worse than no deal' and that she will walk away if the deal is bad. Ok, we will take her at her word. She would like a deal with the US. Will she say the same - walk away from a US deal if the terms are not good enough. If she won't say, have no doubt Trump will smell weakness and push. Trump, whatever else he is, is a highly experienced dealmaker and well used to getting his own way. Does anyone at all believe May can force Trump to do anything he is not prepared to do already?

So let's instead assume May is 'strong and stable' enough to walk away because she does not believe the deal in in the UK interests. Great, we have no EU trade deal and no US trade deal. Now everyone else in the world smells our desperation.

As a certain well known figure would put it: Bad!


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