Stu, note that I said many Mudcat atheists paint with a wide brush. Perhaps I should have said many of the most vocal Mudcat atheists paint thusly.

There are many Mudcat atheists who can carry on a peaceful and respectful and constructive discussion, and I find them delightful. It's the ones who are constantly on the attack, who make me feel uneasy and unwelcome. And Fry and Hitchens and Dawkins are always on attack mode.

I really don't like being pushed into a defensive posture. I much prefer open discussions where all positions are welcome and respected.

-Joe-