"there is plenty of evidence being presented by witnesses."

Then where is it? All I'm suggesting that to make a statement saying there is evidence for whatever is being discussed and not producing said evidence makes the original statement worthless; it's not based on any firm, empirical fact.

When that evidence is produced, then it should be subject to scrutiny and testing.

"Stop trying to obfuscate."

Asking for evidence isn't obsfucation, just the opposite. It's healthy to be skeptical and ask questions. It's how science works, it's how we discover new facts. Take nothing for granted, be open-minded and find out for yourself.


"I am sure none of you nice "liberal" people want to deprive others of opinions which differ from yours?"

Oh grow up Ake. What's the point of this statement? It's ignorant and reeks of insecurity and doubt.