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Jim Carroll BS: INTERNATIONAL BRIGADES Urge MP support (188* d) RE: BS: INTERNATIONAL BRIGADES Urge MP support 15 Jul 17


"Thank you, I now add "fascist" to my list."
That was a quote from Akenataton - he was asked to define "liberal" - he said he meant "fascist"
You started this Bobad - whenever someone criticised Israel, they automatically became a "Jew hater" - this dates back years
I've asked that if you continue with this you be expelled - I hope that will happen - if it doesn't, I will seek to have you thrown out on your arse again.
End of story
The fight against fascism in the thirties was just that - a fight against fascism
The Right-wing press at the time, led by Rothermere's Daily Mail, who openly backed Mosely, distorted it as between Communists and Fascists, and many people fell for it and allowed Mosely to hold his meetings - in fact the protests were a spontaneous opposition to the menace emanating from Germany
My family were typical; they had no political affiliation - they voted labour - that was it.
As far as the Soviet Union was concerned, their policy had evolved into 'Socialism in one country', a form of isolationism.
Trotsky had evolved his theory of 'The Permanent Revolution', suggesting that outside pressure from Capitalist countries would eventually bring about the downfall of Socialism if there was no co-operation between the international revolutionary groups.
Stalin opposed the policy, Trotsky was exiled and eventually murdered.
The Communist parties went into Spain to oppose fascism, not to export revolution - Russia provided weapons for the republicans, these were notoriously out-of-date and inadequate - they were preparing for what they regarded as an inevitable war with Germany.
While the Civil War was at its height, groups like the The Workers' Party of Marxist Unification (POUM), formed by formed by Spanish Trotskyists Andres Nin and Joaquin Maurin, began to demand revolution and fighting broke out between them and those who supported the Soviet line.
Ken Loach's film, 'Land and Freedom' depicted the conflict between the two groups perfectly.
Spain was never an attempted revolution, it was a civil war brought about by split between Nationalists wishing to maintain a status quo which had brought about mass poverty and hardship throughout the country and those wishishing to improve conditions.
Franco - a fascist General, staged a coup against the elected Republican Government and lefts and middle of the roaders throughout the world volunteered in their thousands
Most had linked the events in Spain to the rise of Fascism in Germany.
Just like with the Anti Mosely demonstrations, the riht wing press and the Government in Britain depicted it between Communists and fascists and criminalised those who went to fight
Jim Carroll




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