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Joe Offer BS: INTERNATIONAL BRIGADES Urge MP support (188* d) RE: BS: INTERNATIONAL BRIGADES Urge MP support 15 Jul 17


Goddam. Look at that. Greg F actually posted something in a thread that was actually about the topic of discussion....not that he actually had an opinion of his own to express on the matter, but he did actually copy-paste something that pertained to the topic.
Attaboy, Greggy!

And Greggy, if you copy-paste what I say, be careful how you excerpt it. What I said was this: You have failed to demonstrate to us that you have a brain that is in any way dissimilar to the size, shape, and color of a pea.

You still have the opportunity to demonstrate otherwise. And if you do take the risk and post an intelligent thought, I promise that we will all be duly impressed. But for some crazy reason, you spend years at a discussion forum and do your best to avoid actually contributing to the discussions. The best I can figure is that you're here to do battle, but you don't want to expose yourself to attack by actually expressing an opinion. It's an interesting tactic, but I think it's basically an act of cowardice.




As for you who are so annoyed at being called Jew-haters, let me say this: If you've been called a Jew-hater, you probably are a Jew-hater. And maybe it's a worthwhile reminder that you need to reassess your opinion about Israel. Once upon a time, when the Exodus book and movie were still fresh in people's minds and Israel had a Labor Party government, the Israelis were the darlings of the American and European Left.

But then came the Palestinian Question and a series of Likud governments, and supporting Israel became downright unfashionable among the American and European Left. I started to hear leftists say really nasty things about Israel and Israelis. They still feel a little guilty that their opposition to Israel might be seen as antisemitic, but they cover that up with platitudes and denials.

The horrible truth is that Israel is a lovely country, and the Israelis have worked wonders with land that was once considered worthless. The Israeli people are friendly and tend to be well-educated, and they tend toward liberal political perspectives and maybe even pacifism.

But Israel confronts an impossible situation, and there is no solution in sight. It's clear that the Israelis have a right to be where they are; but it's also clear that the Palestinians also have a right to be there - and to share in the prosperity of Israel. But they don't trust each other, so they can't live together and they each do really awful things in an attempt to protect their own legitimate interests.

I hope that one day there will be a solution, but I don't know what that solution will be. In the meantime, liberals will continue to say things that are really hurtful and unfair to Israelis - and to Jews in general.

The situation in Israel is still unresolved, and seems to be impossible. There was a situation in Ireland that also seemed impossible, but it now seems to have been resolved. Still, the wounds are there, and it wouldn't take much provocation to reopen those wounds.

The situation in Spain more-or-less resolved itself with the death of Franco, but not really. Separatist movements keep arising in Spain, and the country could fall apart at any moment. Support of the International Brigades could serve to reopen wounds, so I think the proposed UK resolution is not a good idea.

But anyhow, if somebody calls you a Jew-hater, take the opportunity to think about it. There may be truth in the allegation. And in the meantime, be aware that many of us consider the years-long Mudcat Jew-hater debate to be tiresome, and we wish it wouldn't interfere with civil discussion here.

-Joe Offer-




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