"Yes, you never can, revealing yourselves to be liars." Nobody tells lies Keith - this ha become a stonewalling poly You demand a quote You are given one You ignorre it and a few postings later demand a quote And so ad infinitum You debate her to "win something" - want a list of how many times you have claimed "you lose" Nobody else does this - we are here yto debate issues - you are here to "win" something That is not what debating is about Your present technique is to make your claim and then to ignore all evidence to the contrary and continue to make it Stonewalling, pure and simple What you don't ignore you deny out of had - a perfect example is the antisemitc support Israel is giving to Hungarian extremists which you dismissed as "lies" while your fellow right wingers were prepared to debate it as fact Stonewalling again You have debated BDS and will now probably declare it out of bounds because you refuse to discuss Israeli antisemitism on a thread concerning non existent antisemitism instgated by anti an BDS capaign by Israel # More stonewalling You have been given a list of facts about the countries you say support a ban on BDS - you ignore them - more stonewalling You have moved from "a massive problem of antisemitism" to clinging to one sing piece of driftwood - Naz Shah, in order toi discredit the Labout Party Utterly insane - even the right wing press have walked away from that one. "She did not see it as a joke, and really advocated it." She put it up as a blog five years ago - you don't "advocate it" as a blog- you raise it as a serious proposal at a Party meeting It was before she was an MP - the Labour Party is not responsible for the views of every single member and to suggest and to suggest they are is spiteful propaganda Shah apologised for her remarks and the matter was dropped by everyone except you "She is a Labour MP and Labour suspended her over it." Half the story again She was suspended whike the accusations were investigated - she was then reinstated Why did you miss this bit out (rhetorical question) You said she confessed to antisemitism when what she actually said was ""I wasn't anti-Semitic, what I put out was anti-Semitic," - half the ****** story again Labour has proved beyond any doubt that no serious proiblm exists - the British people in the last fiasco of an election has shown this to be a non-event, yet you continue to re-resurrect long dead threads to show the world is wrong and you have "won" something We can safely assume you are not going to respond to Israel's open antisemitism, just as we can assume you are not going to respond to the actual facts of the banning of BDS in France Britain and Canada That is what you do - you ignore thenm and let them lie and fester, than raise them again That is neither honest or intelligent debating - it's trying to "win" something Tteh fact is simple - no matter how hard you try to claim otherwise - there is not "massive problem" of antisemitism in the Labour Party - there never has been and there never will be They are siompley not that sort of Party W can safely leave that to the Tories and their track record of racism, Little Englandism and Bigotry Ukip, who you one valiantly supported as a serious party, as you do is a dead dead duck Jim Carroll
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